Well!! This is a nice forum. I spent most of the week reading a lot of it, sounds like people speak their piece, and interaction is the result. My club was that way, several of you remember that, as well. Since the 409 days, I got into racing NHRA Stock Eliminator, have a '68 Chevelle that's fun to drive and competitive, but not the fast car in its class by any stretch. For about 20 years, the Winternationals and the World Finals were the only game in town, then in 1996 or so, they opened Pomona for street legal drags and then fielded an ET bracket team,then Super Chevy Show came there. I raced at all those until that ended(except the last one), by then the 1/8th mile track at Irwindale came along, and the 1/4 mile track at Fontana at the California Speedway, so now there's some regular bracket racing in So Cal. I still have a complete 409 engine, the 12 bolt from my Bel Air, and could put something together with it. I sold my '63 Bel Air to Mitch Akers in San Diego, he had it repainted the OEM metallic green, put a flat hood on it, and a BIG 409 with a 400 trans. I saw it go 7.25 at Irwindale , about the equivalent of 11.00's in the quarter,and we are still out and around. Mitch still has his robin's egg blue '60 Impala that goes 9.60's at around 136 or so with a BIG crate motor,3600 pounds worth of big finned Chevy and all.Bob, I appreciate the job you do here. I know that it isn't always easy to keep on keeping on, but stay by your guns. I never let the lowest common denominator take over and dictate policy. Obviously,you don't either. Incidently, I've known Doug Marion for over 30 years or so, we had a nice visit recently,and we're still pretty good friends. Without the ink and exposure he gave us in the late 70's and 80's, this whole 409 thing would have not happened probably at all. Nice to hear from a fine bunch of people. Later, Greg.